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do. Mr. Sulzberger and Mr. Merz did. And as a matter of fact, I do with them or I wouldn't be where I am together either, because we all do have basically the same long-term views. To express it in the loosest possible terms, we have a basically liberal, internationalist kind of outlook that I think comes through in our daily reactions to what is happening. But this is a different thing from saying that we're planning an editorial to be run six months from now. That you can't do. At least I don't think you can do it on a daily newspaper. About the furthest insofar as actual editorial project goes, specific editorial projection goes, would be a matter of a few weeks.

In the Vietnam thing, for instance, I've been fussing around and there has been planning over a matter of weeks and it will be a couple of more weeks before it's actually run. But that's still relatively short term.

Q:

Okay, now you wanted to discuss an incident with President Kennedy.

Oakes:

Well, this is just a little vignette that might be amusing and throw some light on Kennedy himself. It must have been about 1955 or '6-no later than that-when Mr. Kennedy was senator, and I as a member of the editorial board at the time used to go to Washington fairly frequently and drop in on various political figures that I thought were of interest and talk with them, get background information. I did this habitually a few times a year. I almost always, from the time Kennedy became senator, would stop in to see him because I very, very early in his senatorial career began to form a very high opinion of him and of his future possibilities. I have to say in parentheses here that I think I'm the first



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