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So that gives a little coloration to this idea of expressing a point of view that would be different anyway from the editorial page.

Oh, yes. Oh, sure. And also a reference to the fact that I've already mentioned, that the Tribune did have at least one hole, a relatively small hole, for these articles.

Right, in the center of the page.

Well, my recollection is - you remember it too? Under the cartoon, that's exactly right, and I was always very jealous of their having that and thinking, all during this period, that we ought to have something, except something better.

And then I went on to say that I had already asked the opinion of members of my own editorial board, separately, about this, and they'd each independently come up with some similar ideas of what the page should contain.

Reston said that he was in favor of the idea, and Dan Schwartz said that he thought it was a good idea. Salisbury's first comment was, as a representative of Mr. Daniel, he had to point out that “Clifton has some reservations and wants to know what is proposed -- Mr. Daniel would not like to see a page that would tend to incorporate the material now presented in the news columns in the form of Q heads and interpretive stories. He would object to having those swept out of news and put in the new format,” and that was - also, he was quite dubious as to certain possibilities such as getting outside columnists. That was the original, the first commentary.