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were moved elsewhere in the paper, elsewhere in Section Four in the Sunday paper, I
So you and Salisbury combined were able to do what you were unable to do alone?
Yes. I don't remember Salisbury ever taking any strong position with me on the
other issues, no. He may have. I just simply don't remember it. I have no specific
recollection. But on the Republic of China one, I sure do remember that, because he
brought it up and he was very upset about it, and I used it as another chance to bring up
the objection to this type of ad on Op-Ed, which I had been turned down on previously,
when it applied to Mobil.
Was this an in-person confrontation with Punch, or what?
You mean, when we went to advertising? No, we had a conference with Veit, with
Ivan Veit, in advertising, or business manager or whatever.
He was a vice president?
Oh, yes, very important on the business side of the paper, and also as an advisor to
So he took it from there, did he? It wasn't a direct confrontation with -?
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