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There's another aspect of this that I should mention while talking about this; and this certainly affected the future as far as we were concerned. My father was of course accused of changing the name to hide the fact that he was Jewish. I remember somewhere seeing letters attacking him very severely, even in publications. In boxes and files that I haven't yet gone through in detail, there are such letters from various people in Philadelphia and elsewhere in the country. Of course, he was fairly well known as the former -- by this time - - former editor and publisher of the Public Ledger. It had in the meanwhile, by the way, been sold to Cyrus H.K. Curtis.

So it was your father's idea?

-- with Adolph. No. Adolph was the controlling --

But it was your father's idea to sell the paper?

Yes -- but see his autobiography for his own account of that. In any case, when Curtis bought it as of January 1, 1913, my father remained as editor, as really in charge of it, and in all the documents there was no question that he was in control of the paper, even though Curtis had become the publisher. But the problem was that Curtis then began interfering with the management of the paper in a way that my father could not abide, and so at the end of his two year contract, he quit the Public Ledger and with a good deal of feeling that Curtis had absolutely violated the contractual agreement under which my father was going to be the controlling voice in the paper. But he was an employee. He was