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editorial position. But Punch Sulzberger, who was the one that counted, was, at least in
the early days. Of the other top people around the Times, only [James] Reston, who was
writing as an independent Times columnist in Washington, also took, as I recall it, pretty
much the same critical view as the editorial page did.
[END TAPE ONE, SIDE TWO; BEGIN TAPE TWO, SIDE ONE.]
This is Tape two of Session eight with John Oakes.
I'm pretty sure -- I'm not quite sure, if in this period Rosenthal, Abe Rosenthal, was
on the third floor, was one of the news executives. I think he was. If not then, certainly
later on, he was a very strong critic of our policy. I can't be any more precise than that.
One of the reasons I asked that question is years ago I interviewed Homer Bigart for the
New York Times, and there was a lot of discussion in that interview about the resistance he
got from the newsroom editors.
From the third floor, from the newsroom.
From the editors.
Yes. To printing his copy.
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