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Today is March the 3rd, 1998. This is the ninth session of an oral history with John B.
Oakes. We're in his home on Fifth Avenue. My name is Mary Marshall Clark and this
interview is being conducted for the Oral History Research Office at Columbia University.
Good morning, Mr. Oakes.
Hello, Mary Marshall. Glad to see you again.
I wanted to ask you some questions today to follow up on the ending of your period as
editor of the editorial page. Could you describe the transition from you to Max Frankel: how
that happened, how you were notified that you would be leaving the page, and something
about the transition.
I think the best way to do that, Mary Marshall, is to read to you, if this is permissible
within the rules of the oral history project, a memorandum that I wrote for my own file -- a
memo to the file. It's a quite long one. It's dated Thursday, May 13th, 1976.
Hold on one second.
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