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Well, I have to say to you that I don't think I was unique in writing on that stuff -- I'm sure there were other people doing it, in other newspapers. I'm speaking now of outside the environmental press. Of course there was a huge amount going on in that, but that's really not what you're asking. I wish I could be more precise. But I didn't feel like a particular hero or anything like that, as a lone voice crying in the wilderness.

No. Well, by that time there was a substantive environmental movement at that point.

Yes.

What were some of the major environmental voices that were coming out at that time? The presses?

You mean like the magazines?

Yes.

Well, publications put out by the Sierra Club, for instance, including a marvelous series of books masterminded by Dave Brower. The National Audubon Society, Audubon magazine is another. I have to say that the non-profit environmental organization I was most closely associated with -- I was associated with several of them, but the one I was the most closely associated with was the Natural Resources Defense Council [NRDC], of which I was a funding trustee in 1970 -- put out a very fine magazine that that they are still putting out called Amicus, a quarterly. The activist environmental organizations, such as