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We'll find them and attach them. So what did that kind of response indicate to you? You were surprised by that?

Of course, it indicated to me that there were a lot of people -- naturally, Harvard students are hardly representative of the country as a whole, but, anyway, it made me feel pretty good because it made me feel -- I was particularly happy because it was really a rebuke to Buckley, who, by the way -- oh, I forgot to add this. This is sort of the most delicious point. After the debate was over -- and remember, this was on “Firing Line” and it lasted, with an intermission, for close to two hours. We had questions from the audience. In any case, after it was finally over, the participants were scheduled to go over to the Harvard Faculty Club afterwards for a little reception. Bill Buckley, the host of the whole affair -- and the famous host of the whole “Firing Line” series -- was so outraged by the overwhelmingly favorable response of the audience to the Galbraith/Oakes team. He knew Galbraith very well because they were on opposite sides of debates many times, but I had never been on a Buckley program before -- Buckley not only didn't even have the courtesy to say “good-night” to me or thank me for my participation, at the end of this thing as we were on the platform, getting ready to go over to the faculty club, but didn't show up at the faculty club reception, either. [Laughter]

That's funny.

It was really an outstanding discourtesy to an out-of-town guest on his program, which, of course, I was. Buckley hated me, obviously, anyway, because he knew what kind of stuff I had been writing before. But that was sort of my final triumph that Bill Buckley