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were Cardinal Spellman and myself. Now that Cardinal
Spellman has died, I'm a loner. It's only a question of
time until I'll be overruled because the property becomes
more valuable everyday.
Will they tear the building down?
Oh, a lot of people in the Church and a lot of people
at Random House have long suggested that we sell out. We'd
get an enormous profit. That building, which cost us just
over a half million dollars with all the improvements, is
probably today worth about two and a half million dollars.
We'd make about two million dollars on the building. That's
more than we made in publishing in twenty years! They'll
put up a big skyscraper there. The idea of a courtyard on
Fifty-first Street and Madison Avenue...!
Would you like to discuss Cardinal Spellman at all?
You must have had many dealings with him.
We had lots of very pleasant dealings with the
Cardinal. We would have two lunches a year together. I
usually would take him out once, and I would go over and
have lunch with him once a year. This was not a regular
rule, but this was about it. We were good neighbors, and I
liked him although he was a very reactionary man. He was a
very decent man if you could get over his reactionary ideas,
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