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uncles agreed that it cost them a fortune, but they were hailed by the police! Pop was a great salesman. Everybody liked him. He'd work faithfully, too--until the ballgame started, and then he'd be up at the Polo Grounds!

You started out and decided you wanted to be in the School of Journalism....

I decided I was going to enter the School of Journalism. I got just enough points. I never could do algebra at all, and I had counted on two points for algebra. Then I knew I'd flunked the entrance exam. I simply couldn't do it. I had two points to make up. So I remember I went in and took an exam in freehand drawing, which any idiot could pass, and I passed that. That was one point. Then, instead of taking intermediate French, I took advanced French. This was taking a desperate chance, because if I didn't get that last extra point, I was dead. But I passed it, so I got into the School of Journalism.

Was that the following September?

That was the following September.

What were your initial opinions when you got to Columbia-- do you remember?