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was the captain of the Columbia chess team and never lost a match the whole time he was in college. He knew everything. And when my mother died, he came and lived with my father and me, so his influence over me was enormous.

Let me tell you a few things about life when I was a little boy. At that time the New York Herald had a branch office at 125th Street and Seventh Avenue. In front of that office was a score board, a baseball scoreboard. A boy used to come out every once in a while with a rubber pad and stamp the scores on that board. We kids were great baseball fans. I inherited this from my father. He started taking me to games where I used to play at putting the seats up and down. I went to ball games when I was five years old. So we would stand there after school and watch the scores being posted. There was no radio in those days, no television. Of course we were great Giant fans and always hated the Dodgers even though Pop had played on the Dodgers. They were the enemy.

Howard Dietz was one of the boys. He became a well-known playwright later on. He wrote “The Bandwagon.”

One of the other graduates of that school was Morty Rodgers, who became a great gynecologist and delivered my two sons. His kid brother, whom we used to kick around the house and tell to “Get out of here” became reasonably well known, too. His name is Richard Rodgers.

You were talking about the score board. Did you go out and watch the score board as they were putting up the scores?