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You see, it was in front of the window. We used to congregate. The cops used to push us aside--we were blocking traffic. But everybody was interested in baseball in those days, much more than they are today. And the fact that there was no radio or television influenced us. We waited until that boy came out and put those numbers up; and as he came out, we'd say, “What happened?” But he was playing God, so he wouldn't even answer us until he stamped those numbers up.

But P.S. 10 was a great school.

Did you start there right in kindergarten?

I went to some private kindergarten for a year, but I don't remember it very well. I know it was at Mt. Morris Park, to which Dick Rodgers has just given a fire tower.

We were all kids around there. For Public School 10 the alumni association is still active. In fact, last year we went up while Mayor Lindsay put a plaque on the building where it used to be. They've torn it down and put up a housing project now. It should have been torn down even when I was a boy. It was already old then, and it lasted until about two years ago--the school, the building. But the teachers I remember as if it were yesterday. Students when I went there included Morty Rodgers; Ben Grauer, the television man; and Judge Shallet, one of New York's best judges.