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still a social interaction and apparently the people who were polled were more likely to express the liberal, non-racial position than they actually voted.

Let's see, in that gubernatorial race-- 1982, is that correct?

I think it was '82.

In addition to some of these statements coming out of the White House, including the Oval Office itself, there have been some changes in court decisions. Some in the Supreme Court, but I believe the one right now causing a great deal of discussion is dealing with affirmative action and seniority among the Memphis fire fighters, and the decision has gone in favor of seniority. Therefore, in effect does it not nullify some past affirmative action down there?

Well, we'll have to wait and see if it gets-- before the Supreme Court there are a number of cases I understand that are going into-- my crystal ball is sort of cloudy, but certainly there seems to be a stronger conservative view from the Court now on racial matters than there were eight, nine years ago. The civil rights progress that resulted in a female on the Court has some interesting results, because next to [William] Rehnquist, Justice [Sandra Day] O'Connor has not been particularly sensitive