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It was stupid, unnecessary, and diversionary. That's my
personal reaction. And I thought that Jesse was shortsighted in
not disassociating himself from that kind of nonsense immediately
and persuasively. I didn't see a damn thing that he could have
And he finally had to do it. A week or so later.
Yes. But to me that was too late. I don't see what he
was benefiting from any association with Farrakhan. To me he was
at best a cult leader, and who got more publicity by his
association with Jesse than he had gotten for years prior to
that. That's my personal opinion.
Yes, after the assassination of Malcolm X, the Black Muslims
sort of dropped out of the media. Or the media dropped coverage
Absolutely. Until Farrakhan latched onto Jesse, and why
Jesse felt he needed Farrakhan, I do not know. But again, as
I've been telling you, there are a lot of things I don't know.
Have you had the impression that Jesse Jackson himself is at
least somewhat anti-Semitic?
People have said that, and I don't know. To be quite
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