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Oh, no, no.

Quite the opposite in your view?

My view is that that is an excellent example of the fact that whites are generally-- or in decision-making positions of that sort-- really aren't able to take blacks seriously. And maybe don't want to. Can you imagine any group such as that listening to the kinds of things that I've been saying to you? And understanding. First, they wouldn't expect that to be coming from a black. They expect emotions. They expect extremism. They expect simple stories kinds of things. Are you understanding what I'm saying?

Yes. Without challenging in any way--

By all means, challenge.

The possibility that you would view this cynically or the decision was a cynical one, did you ever suspect that because Farrakhan was so much in the news, the Press Club knew it could pack a luncheon? And, of course, they make some money when they pack a luncheon.

All right. Let me ask you this. Has the Press Club ever taken any of those extreme white Klan people as guests, or have