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1982. She died about a year later, August 11, 1983.

And let me identify Leonard Goldenson here. He was Chairman of the Board of A.B.C.

This is somewhat of a repeat question, but perhaps it's coming from a different angle. Did she publicly concern herself with unusual stresses that black women have? That is, in professional, vocational life. I have a clip here. This clip dealt with a recent survey that found that, under certain work conditions, black women felt more stress than white women. In other cases they did not. In a workplace where less than fifteen percent of the women were black, or more than 85 percent, they did not feel stresses that the other women did not feel. But if it was a little bit more balanced, in a fifty-fifty or forty-sixty ratio, they were found to feel more stress than white women. Do you recall her ever talking about that or have you, as a psychologist?

No. I don't recall Mamie ever discussing problems of that sort in a generalized way. Mamie looked at these problems from the perspective of individuals. Some individual black females might feel more stress than others, might be more anxious than others. She was an individualist as far as it was possible for an American black to be an individualist, in dealing with the demands of society in terms of race or sex. For example, she was never taken with the feminist movement. She could understand it, but at the same time she understood the reality that she had to cope with the challenges of life as an individual. Interestingly enough, succeeded [?]--as an