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Right. And certainly the Appalachian whites have been ignored in their area. Maybe one of the ways they're going to deal with the economic problems of the Appalachian whites is to disperse them. Then the question is what's going to happen to Appalachia.

Somewhat related to those questions is this: since the barriers have fallen to some extent--

To some extent.

To some extent. Have the conditions in the black ghettoes actually worsened because those blacks that were able to come up economically, to get other jobs, to eat and go to the theatres dowtown, have left a void in a socioeconomic sense in Harlem or a Watts or a Chicago southside.

Or south Bronx?

South Bronx of course.

Okay. I don't know whether they're worsened because of the barriers being removed for some blacks. But I don't know whether I can drive through Harlem without seeing deterioration. There are a number of indices of negative, deteriorating conditions in our ghettoes, the most obvious being housing--abandoned houses. And even though they're not abandoned, being just this side of slums, or maybe not this side of slums. Lack of adequate sanitation, increasingly