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true beliefs?

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This is a continuation of the interview with Dr. Kenneth B. Clark on June 28, 1985.

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Dr. Clark, you were referring to Ronald Reagan as the actor. Do you feel that in his positions, in his expressions on civil rights he is acting, or is he expressing his true beliefs?

Well, that's one of the issues and problems of actors. I think that, again, I never studied this problem. I've heard, and I've personally speculated that in playing the part actors combine the part that they're playing with themselves. There's a combination of these two things for actors in general. I suspect that it would be extremely difficult for an actor to play a part in which there is little or no empathy for the part. I do believe that Mr. Reagan in his tenure as President has combined, again I will say very effectively. You notice I've used the term “effectiveness” in discussing or expressing my opinion of Mr. Reagan. I've used the term “effectiveness” frequently.