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Jew Assess Breakdown.” Breakdown in relations between black--there's another piece. This turned up in the weekly religion page of the Washington Post, June 22, 1985. I think it was related to that NAACP meeting, except another meeting, a forum sponsored by the Washington Hebrew Congregation. One of the persons quoted in the Washington Post is Roger Wilkins. Am I recalling right, he was the nephew of Roy Wilkins?

Right.

In which he's talking about talking to each other with great enough sensitivity and care. But then he says that while he “can't quantify it,” he was aware of “more black anti-Semitism” at present “than I have ever encountered in my adult life.” Then he expanded, “I have found more hostility toward the black community and me personally and some of the things I have done than at any time in my adult life.” I don't know whether when he said that, that second statement whether he was referring exclusively to Jews or whites in general, including Jews. Do you think that's a fair observation that he made?

For him, yes.

For him.

Yes. I wrote an article for Commentary magazine in 1946, I think, with the title, “Candor in Negro-Jewish Relations.” If one