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says is more than rhetoric, that some of his harsh accusations, the “evil empire” and so forth, do represent a hostility on his part?

Well, I certainly believe that. You notice, that was publicized, my presidential address, which was publicized when Nixon was in power and we were very much involved in the Far East, in Cambodia, Vietnam, et cetera. The Cambodia bombings, and I think that I remember that Barry Goldwater said that one of the ways we could have dealt with was to have limited nuclear weapons there. These were things that horrified me. Apparently they horrified me more than they horrified other more rational people. I was thinking, “My Gosh!” As [Albert] Einstein said, with the coming of atomic weapons, and I carried around with me, “the splitting of the atom has changed everything save our mode of thinking. Thus we drift toward unparallelled catastrophe.” Well, the splitting of the atom should have been followed by what I called a psychotechnology to counter the ability of any single leader to propel us toward unparalleled catastrophe.

Have there been any doubts in your mind that such--I'm not sure I should call these mind altering drugs, but such drugs could be developed safely?

Well, I guess the doubts one would have in medical research in general, that you develop medication--and by the way, people kept saying drugs. I said what we should do, research to see how one can control the negative and hostile qualities of human beings, and make