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rely on it. [laughter] As my wife used to say, “Look, we only have a little period of life--” I know that in my life time there will not be really significant changes toward humanity. I know that. I just hope that--[telephone rings] [tape stops and starts]

This concludes the epilogue reminiscing of Dr. Kenneth B. Clark, unless Dr. Clark if you think of something later when you've seen the transcript, let us know.

Sure, let's keep in touch. If you're going to, be around, just call, and if I think of anything to say, I will or if you see something that is related to some of the myriad things we've talked, you just call me. We'll see.

Alright, then we'll have epilogue two.

Oh, no [laughter]

This is the conclusion of the tape today, November 7, 1985.

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