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in that she didn't argue as much as I did.

What was your sister's name?

Beulah. Beulah Clark Watson. She's a social worker, and not the same type of personality as my mother, by any means. She is much more calm, and she has strong beliefs, but she isn't the overtly forceful, by no means the argumentative type. Even when we were growing up, she was more adaptive to reality. She pretty much accepted things as they were, rather than -- She was always a good student, but never a critical, overtly critical student.

When you were an older boy, did you do a great deal of reading of the Bible?

Not a great deal.

Catechism?

Yeah. Well, I had to. You know, I had to learn -- well, I can't be blasphemous, but I had to learn the for every Sunday, and recite them, because my mother -- tied status, our status, our family status, with my demonstrating that I could do things better than --

And by the way, she wouldn't put it quite that way, but it was clear that that was part of the motivation. I mean, I was always Collects? the person who had to get up and recite the you know, or something, in the Sunday School thing. The one thing that I couldn't do better than anyone else was play the violin.