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on racial identification in Negro children made a terrific impact on
me -- in spite of the fact that I'd already been at Columbia. But
it was clear to me that this was the area in which we had to devote
the rest of our lives, professionally and personally.
I have never regretted, in any absolute sense of the term
“regretted,”, moving into social rather than neurophysiological
psychology. But I had always wished that I could have done both, or --
Now, I think the most exciting things in the field of
psychology will emerge in the area of psychopharmacological and
neurophysiological psychology. I think that the answers to very important
questions about human behavior, aberrations in behavior, neurosis
even, will come, once we break this Freudian preoccupation, and start
looking at man as an organism. But, I think that a lot of the problems
in social psychology might eventually have to be dealt with by
direct organismic interventions.
Stupidity, for one thing. Prejudice. The booby traps of
the human ego, I think can be dealt with much more precisely than
we have dealt with them through education or philosophy or religion.
That'll be in somebody else's lifetime, not mine.
Since you've made this type of reference to Freudianism, though,
can you recall your first reaction to your studies of Freud, and
trace the evolution of your thinking about his theories?
Yes. I obviously was very impressed. Well, I was impressed
about everything. But again, this man Sumner had the capacity to
communicate, not only the substance but the implications of
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