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Dr. Clark, in the first interviews, we have you up to your tenure at City College, New York, but without any great detail about your teaching experience there, and how you began to become more active in the civil rights, the equal rights movement. We can cover those as two segments. And then of course, the conception of HARYOU-Act, and your relationship with the Harlem political leaders. Not that we can get through all this this morning, but I thought of these as chapters, segments.

All right. I think we talked about my involvement with the lawyers and the Brown Decision, haven't I?

We haven't gone into any great detail with your relationship with the lawyers on the Brown decision. That would also be another chapter, I would think.

Well, I went to the college in the early forties. I got involved with the department there and enjoyed it, enjoyed my colleagues, enjoyed the students, enjoyed the general excitement