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was I ever aware of being related to by my colleagues or by my students, with maybe one or two exceptions among the students, in terms of my color.

By the way -- one of the exceptions was Nathan Glaser. He's one of the few students whom I remember who seemed unable to hide his discomfort, or his awkwardness, at being in my class. And I sensed it at the time. I didn't wait until I'd been reading his latest stuff on affirmative discrimination in the articles which he has been publishing in COMMENTARY MAGAZINE, you know, rationalizing continuation of the racial status quo.

But as a student in my introductory course in psychology, he seemed awkward, and somewhat sullen. I was surprised when I saw him show up in my social psychology class, where his manner was pretty much the same.

Fortunately, there were very few students like that Fortunately.

Was this something you just sensed, or did he actually say anything

No, he never said anything that was related to race in any way, but he -- it was not uncommon for the City College student at that period to be questioning, you know, and the better students engaged their professors. They were not passive. And to this extent, Nathan Glaser was typical of the better student. However, he brought with it a quality of sullenness, not know-it-all-ishness, because that was also not too uncommon, -- I mean, he had a quality of know-it-all, but there was another quality of -- yeah, “I know more than you do, and I'll always know more than you do, and by knowing more than you do,