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Waldheim said, “This is a violation of the territorial integrity, the sovereignty, of a nation.”

Now, you could say, “All right, but the end justified the means. The principle of teaching terrorists a lesson justifies this.”

All right, so you're saying, you have to balance conflicting principles when they're in conflict. But at least that should be discussed. And I guess I am emotional, more about-- I don't know, maybe I'm trying to rationalize, but I am as much disturbed and emotional about the refusal to discuss as I am about the distortion itself. Or maybe they're one and the same.

Oh hell, you see I'm getting incoherent, so do you want to go on with something else?

All right. I'd like to pick up some of the stands from the end of the HARYOU-ACT story, particularly some of the references to some of the other black leaders involved. We ended with your discussing further Malcolm X. Now, during that discussion, you stated that you suspected that the government might have been behind the assassination of Malcolm X, but you also pointed out that Malcolm X saw the break coming with Elijah Muhammed and the Muslim organization -- well, especially the family. It wasn't clear to me from reading the transcript whether your suspicion that the government was involved in this assassination came in the immediate or early aftermath of Malcolm's assassination, or whether this is something that you have come to suspect in view of more recent disclosures of