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We've retrogressed?


Oh, I don't think there's any question about that. I mean, you've had your legislature passing one anti-busing -- you know -- piece of legislation after another, and having them declared unconstitutional. You've had the legislature deliberately selecting Regents in terms of the respective, prospective Regent's commitment to anti-busing. And making no bones about this, you know. I'm not talking about Alabama or Mississippi or Georgia, or any of the 17 states of the Confederacy. I'm talking about New York state.

You had -- a friend of mine, Nelson Rockefeller, a few years ago, or about two or three years before he resigned as governor, sending a directive to the Regents, calling to their attention Mr. Nixon's anti-busing position, and asking us to reconsider our probusing position (at that time) in the light of Mr. Nixon's position.

Since then, the Regents who have been elected have succeeded in getting a major re-statement, rearticulation, of the racial policies of the Board of Regents, you know, so that it's practically 180 degrees around from where it was, when I was first elected to the Regents in -- I think I was elected in ‘65, ‘66.


When you were talking about standards for selecting teachers, you were talking specifically also about just what kinds of examinations they give them, and that these examinations really don't show or reveal qualifications to teach under the circumstances and conditions as they exist in these schools now?


Right. And they seem to bear no relationship to performance of the teachers.

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