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It includes other kinds of --
-- what I was suggesting years ago was a first step. But the larger thing -- and I guess
here, is where Skinner -- by the way, he has mellowed quite a bit. I mean, he gave his
presentation on behavior modification in democracy the day before I gave mine, and his was
much more mellow than mine. And he is still focussing on the social, environmental control
of human immorality. And I wish that he were right, in terms of our having the time. I
zero in on organismic, biochemical, psychopharmacological intervention, because I don't
think we have the time to run the margin of error risk of the Skinnerian approach.
Incidentally, did you get much response from biochemists as from psychologists?
You know, that's interesting -- the resposes from them were much more positive.
Because it offers them opportunity?
Yes. And the Pasteur Institute seemed much more responsive, I was told by my friend
Schwartz, who was is dean of graduate studies at the Mt. Sinai Medical School. He was in
Paris at the time that my ideas were publicized there, and he said that -- and he was at
the Pasteur Institute -- he said that they were very positive about it.
The people who were most negative, almost profanely negative,
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