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An open-ended job.? yes. Yes. (crosstalk)

It's an open-ended job.

An open-ended job.

Did these children seem to have a hostility toward going to school when they first came toyou?

No. Never in the history of this clinic have I ever seen most of these children hostile to school. Most of these children want to learn in spite of the school. I mean, if children are hostile to the school, it's because it's not teaching them anything. Really.

It's not this “I hate school” that I grew up with in the public schools.

No. It's not that. And the parents want the children to learn. They really want them to learn, and they know they're not learning in the public schools. But they have high aspirational levels in most cases for their children.

Did you find any evidence that some of the parents pushed their kids too hard inthis direction?

Yes. They were pushing them too hard, and particularly when they couldn't read. You know, they were pushing wrongly. We had plenty of parents where we just turned around and said, “You're not going to push your child for this, you're going to push him for the A.B.C.'s.”