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Faith leads to an exhibition on the Year of the Child, because Faith is working on the film and she's in touch with the people at the United Nations, at UNICEF. She says UNICEF has an exhibition of paintings and drawings by children around the world on the subject of children at work and play. I get to those people, and I then incorporate a proposal for an exhibition as the first exhibition for Bread and Roses, to open on the Year of the Child. UNICEF says, “You will be the New York outlet for the national tour of this exhibition. There's a film, we'll have people who'll speak on it.” Faith says, “You can have my animated film to show -- I'll give you a videotape -- to show in the thing.” The people from UNICEF say, “You know? There should be an interest in schools in this program. You ought to try to reach the elementary schools about getting organized group visits to come down to the schools.” We do that through the teacher's union -- through the UFT. When we come to the program I'll explain what happened.

The question of writing the proposal -- Morty Bauman has gone away for the summer and he is supposed to have written the proposal. When I sit down to look at it I find that there are wide gaping holes and there are no budget figures for anything. There I am, the hospital strike is going on, and I'm really going crazy with this thing. I'm going into the middle of the night writing, trying to figure out what these things cost and making out these notes. My brother Henry offers that “When you finish writing the proposal, I'll edit it.” He really rewrote a lot of the proposal -- he edited it very very fine. So it was a beautiful proposal. Later when NEH -- Lynn Smith said to me, “We have never had a proposal like this. It's a proposal that anybody can understand. Usually our proposals are so esoteric that nobody understands them. It's very clear, very precise.” Of course when it came to money she then says, “Think big.” I said, “How big?” She says, “Think 400,000 dollars for two years.” So I say to myself, “Oh boy. I got to try to figure out, how do I reach” -- this is just for NEH! “How am I going to make these things figure?” So I start to go crazy with the thing. “This will cost that, and this will cost this.”

I'm running in to problems on funding because of NEA. NEA is beginning to say that, “This is a lot of money,” because I'm talking about 150,000 [dollars] for one year. They said, “That's a lot of money. We don't know how you're going to do it. Maybe you ought to find out if there's any foundation around” and that kind of thing. The only foundation person I know is Bob Schrank. Schrank came out of the Machinists Union, was a case -- several times during the McCarthy period he was fired. Went to court twice, and won reinstatement. Very very bright guy. Later became the director of Mobilization for Youth, then went to the Lindsay administration and then went to the Ford