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were innumerable features, full color features, around the country of Images of Labor. I have a box full of Images of Labor clips. When I went to Sweden and told them about Images of Labor, they said “That's what we want to have in Sweden.” It took a long time, but eventually Images of Labor got extended to a third year, and then I went to Sweden with Images of Labor.

It ended up, it was seen by 350,000 people. It is without doubt the most important exhibition every organized by a union, or on a labor theme, anywhere in the United States to get that kind of audience. It has a fallout in the sense that the posters still go, the book is there.

What was it like for you, personally, during the time of Images of Labor?

Obviously there were a lot of things happening at the same time, but I was like a shepherd with Images. The show was coming to Portland -- I had the schedule, I knew where it was going. For three months in advance I would contact someone like Bob Baugh and say, “Bob, I'll send you all the clips, but here are some of the kind of things that have been done. But use your own imagination. You can raise money for this, you can do this, you can do that. Then maintain contact with me. They would call and say, “This is what we're trying to do, this is what we're doing.” In some cases I flew out to places. I remember going to Houston, where it was shown in a Jewish center which had a museum, and we did a big t.v. thing there. That was at the time the AFL-CIO had that organizing campaign in Houston. I went to a number of openings where I talked. I remember in Houston I had a hostile audience of young high school kids, who had been brought in to the exhibition. They were very hostile on labor, and were trying to throw embarrassing questions. Not important.

That's Images, but this time I'm going to finish it whether you're sleeping or not. I'm going to get the song on tape. All right? I think we're finished on Images. That's enough.

Well, you really didn't tell the Sweden story.

Well, when I come to international things I'll talk about Sweden. Sweden published it's own full color poster, it's own full color catalogue, and moved it around Sweden. I think it got as much p.r. in Sweden as it did in America! [laughs]

How long did Bread and Roses actually run? When did it finally stop circulating?