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Care” they had done, but it was a much more elaborate show -- much more elaborate show. Big cast, about twelve musicians, and they'd been touring the country. Government, government, government! You see? That's the difference. I had experiences where they would take me in to hospitals, because they'd do some performing in hospitals, too. They would take me in to meet the stewards and to explain, they should explain to me what they do and I should explain to them what we do. Always they would try to find the obsessed person in different cities, who should come and meet with me -- I should talk to them and they should talk to me. So there's a lot of that.

Then that followed up, not in Sweden but France. I wasn't there but they came here, wanted to do things with us and they took things.

Who came?

Henri -- let me get his name. He's now the head of CGT.

Kryszucki, the guy who's got a Polish name?

Henry Kryszucki! I don't know how to spell it. K-R-Y-S-Z-U-C- K-I. He saw The Working American and he said, “We've got to take that exhibit and put it in the Pompidou. I said, “You can't do this.” He said, “We can put it in to the Pompidou.” I said, “I can't move it -- the loans and things.” “Oh we've got to take your material. It's got to come, got to come!” Paul Davis is a friend of the -- who's the big culture guy?

Jack Lang.

Jack Lang! He says, “Jack Lang is a friend of mine.” He says, “I'm going to Paris because we're going there to consult on posters for the Mitterand first campaign.” Comes back, he says, “Moe, they wanted to use the Bread and Roses slogan. I told them they had to get it from you.” [laughter] They did a slogan with the roses, but that's a traditional, the rose.

Then Italy. When they came and found out about Bread and Roses they wanted to meet for an hour, and they kept meeting and meeting and meeting.

Who was that?

That's the head of the [?], Professor -- he's the head of the Festival of the People. Now we have a relationship, a continuing relationship.