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Bread and Roses was -- but she called me and said, “Hey, you're ruining our business. All we do is get calls about the posters.” She said, “I'm putting on a tape so that when people ring us, the first thing they're going to hear is, ‘This is not the Bread and Roses posters. If you want to reach Bread and Roses, call this number.’” And we began to get calls from people.

Then one day I get a call from Melvin McCrea. He's still a very close friend. He was here two days -- he's a producer for Peter Jennings. And he had seen the posters on the subways.

Peter Jennings on ABC.

“ABC World News Tonight.” Now, Melvin is an African-American activist and a very, very decent guy. So he calls and he says, “Mr. Foner?”

I said, “Yes.”

He said, “I'm calling about your Women of Hope.”

I said, “How did you reach me?”

He said, “It wasn't easy.”

He came to see me and interview me about Bread and Roses, went back to Peter Jennings, and Peter Jennings -- they said I will be the Person of the Week, six minutes. They sent in crews, first to interview me at great length, to shoot me in the office -- we're on the fifteenth floor -- holding large posters and images of labor, everything.

Fifteenth floor, 330 West 42nd Street.

That's right. And talking about what we're doing. Then they sent a crew into the gallery where we had an exhibition at that time of students, and Marshall was leading it. He's talking about Frederick Douglass.

Marshall Dubin, a retired 1199er.

Yes, an 1199 retiree. And they film it. Then they send a crew to Ruby Dee to interview her about what she thinks of Bread and Roses. Then they send a crew into the subways to show the subway, inside the car to see the posters, and they even photographed one of the next series, Latina women of hope. I had a copy to --

That brings up the subject of the succeeding series. You had a total of five.