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were on strike starving, with no strike benefits, because we had never expected that there would be a strike this long, and he began to --

“We” meaning the Turner administration.

No, no, no, 1199. When we set up the question of strike benefits, we did not expect that there would be a strike that long, so there were no strike benefits. David then became so sick about this, that he went to the Labor Board and testified that the Turner victory in the election was stolen.

So Dennis is elected president. Now, Dennis and I had very, very close relations during that campaign. Dennis and I would speak to each other daily, in the morning and at night, “What are you doing?” “What are you doing?” And we would check with each other.

At this point, were you working as a consultant to a different union?

I was working as a consultant to 342, the Meat Cutters Union, but I had time there since I could do things on the phone, and I only worked two days a week there. The other days I would come into the office to work on the campaign. I remember that Dennis would call me and I would call him on what we're doing to win member support. Dennis would say he was in Washington trying to get a new election. The dates are now getting confused. When was the second -- oh, Georgianna -- Dennis had been --

It was 1989.

Dennis was elected?

Yes. He was elected in spring of '89.

Yes. Okay. But we were still trying to get the RWDSU off our back because we were still under charges with them of disbanding and taking this over. Dennis was in Washington trying to stop that through contact with legislators, senators, and committees, and he would call me and tell me what happened.

I remember he once called me and said, “Moe, I met with the Kennedy people, and they have a very important meeting tomorrow, and they said that if the Times had an editorial tomorrow, it could be very helpful.”

I said, “Dennis, what do you want me to do?” I called Raskin, and Raskin, who was then a member of the editorial board, and Raskin had