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Let's hold that for just a second. A couple of things occur to me.
First of all, you're talking --
'51, '52. I come to 1199 in '54, in September '54, so I'm there.
I may have upped my date. I have started too early, because I left in
'54. I don't think I was in 65 more than two years, at the most, and
maybe two years before, so it may be '50 that I first start in the labor
movement, closer to that, '49, '50.
So you come into the labor movement at the very point at which
it's under a fierce attack?
I'm in department stores at the time of the Wallace campaign,
so I'm there in '48.
Because I'm there in the Wallace campaign.
Okay. So that is the period, at a time when the unions are being
driven out, there's a fight over the Marshall Plan.
The left is being isolated.
But remember, 65 is like an island. It still has its membership
and its strength.
How big was it?
At that time, maybe 65 was around fifteen thousand, twenty
thousand, maybe. It's a big union, it's an important union. It's not an
industry. A department store could have been, but they never made it
there. Michaelson and Livingston couldn't get along, so Michaelson
pulled the department store people away.
I want to talk about that, but maybe next time. You speak, though,
still even as if the Taft-Hartley stuff isn't even happening. What is the
It's happening. It's happening. I remember votes on signing
the affidavits in 1250, that the members supported the union, not to
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