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on you. You didn't. It wasn't that you slipped around to see it. Yet
because you read the Times and these magazines, these things would
I remember having a conversation with someone who years later told
me how he knew everything was happening, because I remember
having a violent argument with him about -- it was the time of the
Moscow trials -- that one of the bits of evidence against Trotsky was
that there had been a meeting with him at the Hotel Breslin in some
other city, and I had read a story to the effect that that hotel had been
destroyed by that time, so it was phony. I remember mentioning it to
this guy, and he was angry at me for falling victim to that kind of stuff.
But you see, there are a lot of little things like that that made you
Now for the good news.
Now for the good news.
Where are we?
The beginning of your career, about 1199. Last time I think that
what you were doing was mostly reviewing a lot of the different kinds
Programming. And I made some notes of things.
So why don't you just let loose on that.
I don't know what I gave you, but here are the things that I
wanted to mention. Some of them were innovative. Many things were
adapted from what I did at 65, like Salute to Israel, Negro history
program were adaptations, programs for children. But there were
some things that were very new or things that I hadn't done there that
weren't really brand-new. Some things that were not that new are
things like we did a film series, not union films, but on films on social
issues. We would bring in somebody. There were Sunday night socials,
and there was a showing of films, whether it's “Nothing But A Man,” a
Chaplin film. I'd get somebody who would be able to speak about it.
Then it would finish with coffee and cake and asking questions. It was
a social kind of evening. We did a series of lectures on psychology and
psychiatry that were not strictly union. We also established programs
like classes. Not only did we do classes for skills, not in the same
sense that are done today, but, for example, we set up a series of
classes and ended up calling it “1199's Unionversity,” classes for
cosmeticians, for pharmacists to be trained to sell cosmetics, and bring
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