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driven to it, and in my judgment it was the poose-type attack on him, the vigilante, the vileness of it, all led by Dick Kuh, so that he could not play in any cabaret in the city of New York. It was awful.

And that really meant throughout the country for all practical purposes.

Exactly. And that is something that people never forgave Kuh for. Now, he tried desperately to wiggle out from under. He would say, “You know, I didn't do it.” But he did do it. The fact is my partner, Allen Schwartz, knows that he did, because Allen Schwartz represented not Lenny Bruce but I think the guy's name was Solomon who owned the Cafe Au Go-Go, in which Bruce had performed and in which he was given summonses and ultimately the convictions led to his death, in my judgment. And Allen got to know Lenny Bruce, and Lenny Bruce came to my law office at that time. At that time I was a practicing lawyer. This was before I became a member of Congress when Lenny Bruce was the subject for these attacks.

Were you in the city council at this time?

I think I was in the city council, right. And he came to my office. He was bizarre looking at that time. He was wearing