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happened. I don't even go there anymore. I don't like them. I discount them and they discount me, but they can't affect my election in any appreciable way.

Okay. So the district is for McCarthy, the workers are for McCarthy, and so I am speaking for McCarthy in the sense that I'm speaking against the war. And after McCarthy wins in New Hampshire, you may remember that Robert Kennedy said that he was going to reassess his decision as to whether or not to run and that he would let it be known in a week. And I think he made his statement let us say on Saturday or on a week-end. No, I want to be more exact/than that: he made the statement maybe it was on the very Tuesday that McCarthy won -- I just don't remember anymore. In any event, as soon as he made the statement, I sent him a telegram and the telegram ran something like this: “Senator, run -- the country needs you and remember Koch is for you,” something like that.

Okay. I sent the telegram off. I didn't even tell my partners, and I was in a law firm then. Victor Kovner was one of my partners and John Lankenau. Let's say I sent that telegram off on a Wednesday. It happens that I had been scheduled to appear on a live television show the following Sunday with Jerry Wilson as the moderator, Channel 2, and the show was entitled: “The War,” something like that. It was going to be Louis Nizer speaking for Johnson in support of the war, the Vietnam war, and Ed Koch for McCarthy against the Vietnam war. So