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to end the steel trap. Aside from the fact I'm a sucker for that kind of legislation and the district loves that -- right? -- I believe that you can find some other way of killing animals. I'm not the biggest guy on killing animals for coat purposes, although my father was a furrier. While I'm not crazy about it, I'm not one of these nuts who says that no sparrow shall fall. But on the other hand, we have to do things in a more humane way, and I would just assume you can find a trap that will kill instead of maim or that will put them out of their misery in a more humane way. I'm not for ending trapping, I'm not for ending hunting, but I am for doing it in a more humane way.

So I get calls in my Washington office, and while I was out of the office one day, in comes from fur manufacturers with Henry Foner, who is a union leader in the fur business and a very vital member of the Liberal party. He and his brother Mo are very left. They're the radical end of the Liberal party. And he leaves word -- Henry Foner does -- that he'd been in to see me and wants to get me to change my position on this legislation which I'm endorsing. They're going to come back and I leave word with my secretary if they come back and I'm not here, just tell them no, I'm for the legislation and I'll be happy to read whatever they want, but there really is no sense in pursuing it with me -- I'm not going to change my position on it. And she reports to me that they came back and the fur manufacturer is very upset as is Henry Foner. The fur manufacturer