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story. It went on -- it was just incredible. I kept saying,
“Bella, you're going to hurt yourself. Now, Bella. It's bad
for your health to be yelling this way. (laughs) I mean
I was so calm -- it was incredible. That's really the heart of
Did you tell about the one where she comes charging over
to you on the floor?
About Bess Myerson. Yes, that's my favorite one.
Well, let's talk about other things and then maybe something
will be triggered.
Let me ask just one other question, which I don't think was
completely covered in the previous interview about Bella.
How is it that she came up so fast within the reform movement
when she was hardly on the scene until -- what? -- 1968? I
believe that's when you said you first met her.
Yes. Terror tactics. When she runs for something, she
frightens everybody out of the race. For example, let's take
the Senate thing. It's her purpose to frighten people out, to
push Bess Myerson out of the race in the way that she tried to
threaten me for putting her name into the race. And then Bess
told me that she believed Bella had inspired a number of callers
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