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those won't.” (laughs) There may be some new ones. I'm not for the death penalty in crimes of passion. Most killings involve husbands and wives. I'm not for killing husbands and wives who kill one another. It's a crime of passion. I'm not even for keeping them in jail too long -- maybe seven years is enough.

Is the assumption here that they probably aren't going out and kill anybody else?

Exactly, exactly. But this is a statement that you'll never get from a liberal. They're afraid of it. Half of them believe what I'm saying. The other half may not believe it. But the half that does believe it is afraid to say it. I'm not afraid to say it.

So in any event, you've got to get these out to people. I'm for parochial aid. I've been for it as far back as 1967 or '8. There were about 12 people who came over to my house, most of them Jewish but some not. I think at that time I told them I was running for Congress. It was a Sunday breakfast kind of operation. We get into issues and they ask me my position on parochial aid. I say, “I am for parochial aid. Why not? What is wrong? Tell me how it's going to destroy the country to provide some assistance -- not everything --, some assistance to these poor people who want to send their kids to