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organization in which I do not take an active role in the determination of their policies, and I'm not able to spend the time to do that in your case and in most other cases.” And I think that's a very legitimate response, and it's true I say it's a facade, and it's not really a facade -- it's the truth. But it never satisfied those people. I can't help it. I mean I'm not going to be embarrassed by some craziness on their part.

Now, can I just tell you one little story? Because it happens to come to mind. There's a seven-year interval, and the name of the woman involved is Alice Harrington. Alice Harrington calls me up the first year of my term, and she's with some friends of animals group. She's the one who's the moving force every year in running these ads which show some animal in some torture chamber and some animal being clubbed to death -- some really gory stuff. Anyway, she writes and asks me to support legislation which would outlaw kosher slaughtering. By that she means that the animal has to be stunned, struck on the head and rendered unconscious before its throat is slit, which would violate the laws of Kashruth because the animal's throat has to be slit while it's conscious Now, it happens that death is instantaneous when that particular artery is slit. But in any event, she wanted me to take up this legislation, which she had been propounding for years, to ban kosher slaughtering. So I said, “No.” So then she calls up and wants to come in and see me. I said, I'll see anybody.”