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the elevator. It may be a year or two later. And I say, “Good morning, Mr. Chairman.” He was chairman of the Sub-Committee on Appropriations. He was inflamed with anger that I would talk to him. All I can tell you -- we can't get it on tape -- but it goes like this “uhrrr.” I mean a cry of animal anger, not even a word, and the thrust of his meaning (although he didn't say it) was: “Don't you ever talk to me again.” That's what he was saying with this animal cry. I didn't realize how deep the hurt was.

Well, subsequently Hugh Carey, who took an active role with Manny Celler and he became the first vice-chairman, so to speak, and Manny Celler was defeated for Congress, and Hugh Carey has a brilliant idea, which is: “Let's try to get Delaney and Rooney back.” Well, Rooney was impossible -- he just wouldn't come. But Carey invites all of the members to a dinner at a restaurant in Washington, D.C. -- Paul, a nice restaurant down there -- and we have our dinner and Delaney comes. And it was posed as a nonpolitical dinner, just a social, but we're sitting and we're drinking some liquor and some coffee and Carey says, “Jim, come on back to the delegation, we're going to need a chairman and I want you to come back.”

And Delaney, who obviously had been hurt and wanted to be a part of it, said, “Well [almost like a little boy], if you really want me.” “Oh, yes, Jim, we really want you to come back. Everybody was saying...” Okay. In the meanwhile, there

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