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name on that list.” Can you imagine? The others had never asked the question, never cared and never inquired. That's all changed now. Addabbo reports and I want to make it clear it wasn't any question of appointing people. It's not patronage in the sense of good jobs that you're going to get for your friends or your political associates. It's getting a page, but which people like to have. Now young girls can be pages, too. But to have a young man or young women appointed... A lot of them want to be appointed. They get special educational services and they love it. But there are other things, too -- just working in Washington where the action is -- even if you're an elevator operator. They love it. There are a lot of young elevator operators in the capitol. They're college students or on their way to becoming college students.

Well, then the delegation became much more political in the sense of taking up a lot more political issues. Rooney had left. Delaney left after he lost. He didn't come back anymore. Oh, and he took a swing at Podell at a meeting. Shortly thereafter there was a breakfast meeting, and Podell sits down nest to Delaney and he says, “Good morning, Jim,” and Jim hits him. (laughs)

Rooney just disassociates himself. I mean he was always a curmudgeon, not a very nice person, oft times very drunk and very funny when he was drunk on the floor. He would just shout out things that were really funny. But I meet him one day in