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side of the issue as he. I'm interested in the issue.” Well, it didn't satisfy anybody, particularly the VID and the liberals on the east side were very upset. And I got a call from Stanley Geller at my office in Washington. I remember the conversation so well. He says, “Ed, I understand that you're against public housing.” And I said, “No, Stanley, I'm not against public housing. I'm against the Forest Hills project because it's too large. It's got to be scaled down.” He said, “You can't he against public housing no matter what the size.” I said, “No, no, no, Stanley. That project if it's built that way will destroy that neighborhood. It's got to be scaled down.” He said, “I don't care if it destroys the neighborhood.” And I may be unfair to him in that particular sentence, but what I'm telling you now has been written -- I wrote it, so we can give you the exact language if you ever need it. He said, “I don't care if it destroys the neighborhood. The Jews in Forest Hills have to pay their dues.” That's literal quote because that never went out of my head.

I said, “Stanley, you're such a nice guy, and we've known one another for such a long time, and you're a rich man and you've used your money for good things. In fact, you've helped me. For that I'm very appreciative.” Because he'd always supported me financially as well as with his feet in the streets. “And you have this wonderful brownstone on 12th Street, and I wish I owned one like that. And you have this marvelous home in the Hamptons