Session: 123456789101112131415161718         Page 133134135136137138139140141142143144145146147148149150151152153154155156157158159160161162163164 of 617

the Howard Johnson people and with the NAACP representing the blacks, and I was able to settle it. I really felt very proud of that, and I got Howard Johnson's integrated before other places were integrated. Now, that's not a very long time ago -- that's 1962, 13 years ago.

At that time you were president of the VID.

Exactly. I have always felt very supportive of civil rights on the grounds that it's right. I mean people ought to have an equal opportunity to apply without regard to race, sex or religion, national origin, the usual items that we now talk about; and that comes out of a consciousness of being Jewish and having been subjected to oppression -- not personally. I don't remember ever being personally subjected to anti-Semitism in employment, in college, in social relationships. And I don't happen to be an observing Jew, but I'm very conscious of my Jewish heritage and upbringing and very proud. I can't tell you how much I enjoy being a member of the Congress from the most powerful district in the country with all the non-Jewish wealth and power represented by David Rockefeller. I think to myself: that's a great situation.

I don't know whether in the course of our discussions I told you my David Rockefeller story.

I don't think you did.