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that he was against giving more money or agreeing with the Senate. That's always a perfect attitude as far as the House goes.

After several preliminary conferences, Hill agreed on a time and there was a meeting. Fogarty was so difficult that they adjourned without making any decision. Hill could not believe that he couldn't make some better agreement. The House wasn't going to give anything, although the Senate had voted 23 million dollars more; they just weren't going to give anything:

Finally, they met again, and the best Hill could do was to keep seven million of the Senate figures for the five Institutes of Health. Senators Magnusson, Potter, Thye, Stennis, Chavez all helped, but the House stood Firm and Fogarty would not go for anything at all in mental illness.

This was really a great shock to Hill and he told Mike Gorman that something had to be done about Fogarty in no uncertain terms. The question was: What could be done with him? in my mind.

Even Dworshak of Idaho, a complete reactionary in every other area, had actually gone along with Hill. This was the result of a great deal of work done by Florence, who had gone to Dworshak's office one day when he was suffering with a headache and gave him a whiff of smelling salts to revive him, a gigantic hunk of a man, 6'3” and weighing 220 pounds.

Well, it was very sad to me that a whole year's work that





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