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might have been done with the government money, with the additional 16 million dollars that could have been voted, had been lost because of Fogarty's feeling of hostility toward something that was mysterious.

Later in the year I saw Fogarty in the fall, around December, and found out, really got out of him, what was bothering him, and I solved the problem with him, and since that time he felt that he was understood and he has since been one of the greatest leaders that's ever been known in the field of medical research. And he did, indeed, refuse a sure seat in the Senate in order to stay head of the subcommittee in the House, in order to protect the National Institutes of Health in their appropriations.

Would he have been in line to succeed Senator Green?

He was in line to succeed Senator Green. He gave up the sure nomination, which he could have had, to Pell, and he would have been elected as Pell was elected. And he knew that he did this because his interest was so great in this area.

This is another example of a personal attitude being so terribly important in such a large issue.

Yes.