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The extraordinary thing is if there are Federal funds and matching funds people in a community or the heads of schools or people interested in schools feel that their dollar goes twice as far; they get one dollar for 50 cents, you know, that it doubles their money; and it gives businessmen and deans and people who are interested tremendous energy to go out and raise money. It's a terrific selling point.

And does this percolate down to the researchers also?

Oh, well, the researchers, some of them who have ability help to get funds, too.

I mean, are they inspired by the fact that the whole community is interested in this?

Well, I hope so. Some are very remote from community activities and others aren't; I think it depends on the personalities of the researchers.

Another bill which I was deeply interested in got passed, and had gotten passed in the Senate once in 1950. It was the Survey of Sickness Bill, now called the National Morbidity Survey Bill. Dr. Scheele had suggested it to Secretary Folsom at the beginning of the session and Folsom made it an Administration bill. Its purpose was to survey different types