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Here, again, is a parallel with your own case: a personal sense which became a motivating factor.

Of a need which was unnoticed.

You have said that certain diseases are, in a sense, unjust.

That's right. All diseases are unjst.

And they have to be overcome.

That's right.

She is, I think, the most important living woman, really. She's not in good health now. She has had cerebral arteriosclerosis and she's not at all well. Her life, I think, will be shown to have had more influence on the lives of people in the future than almost anybody, in a constructive way, from an overall social health point of view.

While you became interested in the movement in the '30s, were you subjected to any criticism, any brickbats?

Oh, yes, I was considered extremely eccentric for being I? interested in this, and peculiar, and it was slightly embarrassing when I discussed it with people who weren't already interested.

In the mid-'50s, the legal status, as I've said, was changed by an opinion of the Supreme Court, and the American